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The Trafford Centre
Topic posted by Dave ... dated:08 November 2000
I've copied these comments from the old Trafford Centre Forum, which is why they don't have any dates.
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Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:09 March 2020

The tram line to the Trafford Centre opens on 22nd March.

Primark at the Trafford Centre (Barton Square) opens on 20th March.

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Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:12 March 2018

Here's a link to the plans for the Mini dealership where the Containerbase depot is located.  Link.

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Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:26 February 2018

Plans for a Mini dealership have gone in I believe. 

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Reply posted by Shellbell ... dated:26 February 2018

Hi, I noticed containerbase has closed down recently, assuming Peel will have purchased it. Does anyone know if there are any plans for it?

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Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:25 February 2018

Also, the Trafford Centre isn't the biggest in the UK - that title goes to the Metro Centre in Gateshead. 

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Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:24 February 2018

MariaG - they're putting a roof over Barton Square and doing a second floor in there, which is actually already in place if you look. Primark is going to be moving into the former BHS unit apparently.

As for a third floor the centre was designed with capacity to expand vertically in certain areas, such as around the central bit (already a third floor where the cinema is) plus the Peel Holdings office space over Debenhams, but I'm not aware of any firm plans apart from at Barton Square. As for your comment about the centre needing some way for people to get around it...

Re: The Trafford Centre
Reply posted by MariaG ... dated:24 February 2018

I think they’re going to be building a third floor on the Trafford centre. I think personally it is over the top as the shopping mall is big enough already, so much it’s the biggest in the UK! They might want to think about some means of transportation inside the Trafford centre now it’s increasing in size...

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Reply posted by Atlantean ... dated:31 January 2018

I think the Ministry of Transport as it was in those days were very strict. Just before the war, they repeatedly refused permission for North Wester/Manchester Corp to run double decker buses in the area as they perceived them as too difficult (comapred to single deckers) for motorists to overtake.

I think the signs by the Trafford Centre are far too bright. Still they give you something to look at whilst stuck in heavy traffic.

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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:30 January 2018

Slightly after the war Urmston had signage in place "Welcome to Urmston." The department of Transport ordered their removal as they were thought to be a distraction. Compare that saga to the junk placed everywhere now and not only on roads but pavements too.
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Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:30 January 2018

There was an article in the paper the other month where a pensioner had to remove some gnomes from his front garden because they were classed as a distraction to motorists. 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/oap-ordered-remove-mooning-garden-10824314

Strange then that these massive billboards aren't classed as a distraction, I wonder if its anything to do with the money the council gets for them.

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Reply posted by Spangles ... dated:30 January 2018

The live adverts at night are far too bright and therefore distracting and dangerous when trying to negotiate the difficult road layout, particularly if you are not familiar with the area.

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Reply posted by Norman ... dated:29 January 2018

Just a thought. Does anyone else find the 'live' adverts on the approach roundabouts to the Trafford Centre and Asda very distracting? Even though I know they are there I have a reflex action to look when they change just in case it is something else. I would have thought anyone not familiar with them will already be preoccupied with the complex road junction, trying to find the correct lane without the additional distraction - or maybe I am just getting old?!
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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:17 April 2016

There was also a Public Enquiry into diverting the public right of way though the TC site, of which I was the only member of the public who attended & spoke against it. The TC is built on Grade 2 arable land of which there were only 14% left in England & Wales at the time. But money speaks (& my 30 bob doesn't speak loud enough) & you now see what we have, but the money people do not live in the area & have to put up with all the traffic as we do.

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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:17 April 2016

"And even though the site is hardly in an area of outstandinding natural beauty it was a shame Trafford's planners didn't veto the tasteless and vulgar design of the buildings. They are a  blot on Manchester's landscape and are an embarrassment to the region."

Edd, I do not know how long you have lived around here but if you were here in the 1990s you would know that it was not Trafford Council who gave permission for the building of the Trafford Centre. The planning application was 'called in' (i.e. taken out of Trafford's hands) by the then Secretary of State for the Enviroment and various legal disputes resulted in two public enquiries before the grant of planning permission in 1993. The planning permission was then revoked by the court of appeal but reinstated following an appeal to the House of Lords in 1995.
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Reply posted by Edd ... dated:16 April 2016

It was silly to build the Trafford Centre at such a busy location, so ensuring even more traffic problems. Hobby shoppers for overpriced, allegedly trendy consumer goods usually have cars and should have been sent to an out of town site where they would have caused much less inconvenience to the rest of us - or better still taught how to use the internet to shop from home.. 

And even though the site is hardly in an area of outstandinding natural beauty it was a shame Trafford's planners didn't veto the tasteless and vulgar design of the buildings. They are a  blot on Manchester's landscape and are an embarrassment to the region.

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Reply posted by Skopelos ... dated:15 April 2016
What a curmudgeon !
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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:14 April 2016

I see that the BBC1 programme 'Rip Off Britain' is filming in the Trafford Centre on Friday & Saturday 15-16th April 2016. If I had had my way years ago the Trafford Centre would not have been built. 

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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:28 February 2013
The way the MEN report reads Peel's share purchase will actually dilute its holding in the Intu group.
 
It currently has a 20.2 % holding in Intu, which is issuing 86M new shares to finance a deal in Milton Keynes. According to the report Peel is only purchasing just under 17% of the new issue, the balance going to various financial institutions. Thus Peel's aggregate holding in the enlarged Intu group will fall as a fraction of the total issued share capital.
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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:28 February 2013
See Here as requested.
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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:27 February 2013
Divad - Explanation or translation needed for you last post. Please include auto links because I don't bother myself with TC much nowadays after moving to Stretford
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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:27 February 2013
Herb must be steaming about now, Peel Holdings have bought back into the Center. They should be in a circus the way they juggle things. I should reword the phrase, Peel are back Intu the center.
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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:28 January 2013
"Edward, that's an impressive summary of changes, are you the official TC historian! The one that amazes me is Reeds, it's occupied about six different units all over the centre."
 
No, I have no official connection with the T.C. but I do spend a lot of time there in connection with my work and have done ever since the place first opened.
 
I do not know if it is true or not but I have been told, by T.C. staff amongst others, that the reason why certain shops, such as Reeds, Applause and Legends etc, keep flitting about up and down the centre every few weeks is that it avoids business rates.
 
There have been plenty more changes over the years but I think those included in my original post were enough to be going on with!
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Reply posted by Dave - urmston.net ... dated:23 January 2013
A ten million pound website does seem a bit over the top. I suspect that they're looking to put all the stores online, link to their inventories, offer browse and reserve functionality etc.
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Reply posted by Tom ... dated:22 January 2013
£10,000,000 investment in a website doesn't look like a vanity project to me, it looks like a company who are serious about generating more revenue for their shopping centre.
 
The internet is big business these days, as HMV et al have discovered, to their cost. 
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:22 January 2013
I bet webmaster Dave charges the same rates.
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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:22 January 2013
After posing the question about the Center I am surprised no one has mentioned the web site cost. To me it is obscene and the money could have been put to better use creating jobs for the unemployed.

£10 million in wages would do more for publicity than a web page even if the jobs were menial like sweeping the car park.
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Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:22 January 2013
Stewby - If you read the article you'll see that the people who now own the TC also own a number of other shopping centres, including Manchester Arndale, the Metro Centre in Gateshead and so on, and "Intu" is to be a name covering all of them, so they will become the Intu Trafford Centre, the Intu Metro Centre and so on.  People will continue to call the centres whatever they like, so some will still call our local centre the Trafford Centre, the TC, the Traf (our chosen name), the Dump (my parents use this - truncated from its early name during planning, The Dumplington Centre) and so on.  Nobody is forcing you to use a new name for it, go there, like it etc.  It is purely for branding purposes - by visiting one website you can see information on a number of malls, which could be handy for those of us who travel.
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Reply posted by Stewby ... dated:21 January 2013
Why would The Peel Group sell a £1,732M business?
 
Oh, looks like it hasn't really.  The Chairman of the Peel Group is the Deputy Chairman of CSC.
 
But seriously, why bother changing the name? Like it's been mentioned, it will always be called The TC or The Trafford Centre.
Just like Stretford Mall will always be Stretford Arndale.
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Reply posted by Edd ... dated:20 January 2013
So Superdry and North Face have shops in the TC do they?
I should have guessed.
 
The place must be crawling with chavs buying those silly jackets with logos on the back shoulder.
 
The thought of them piling into the car parks in their pristine 4x4s with a look of eager expectation in their eyes is horrible.
 
I suppose places like the TC have to exist these days, but I just wish it wasn't near Urmston.  
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