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Green Wheelie Bins
Topic posted by Eric ... dated:31 March 2006
The collectors of these bins told my neighbour that they will no longer empty them - is this true?
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Edward ... dated:10 August 2018

AnotherPete,

Trying to get any useful information out of TBC and its contractors is like trying to plait a blancmange!

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:09 August 2018

I managed to get mine emptied a good few times without paying for it but this year they haven't bothered to take it so I've emailed them and told them to come and collect their bin ASAP before I start charging them storage on it.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:09 August 2018

Edward - Why don't you ask the council if you're intrigued by the barcode on the label?  Nobody here can answer your question.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Edward ... dated:09 August 2018

Sticker or no sticker the collection crew would still not know what was in the bin and would, in theory, have to look inside to check that it contained only kitchen waste in the absence of a sticker. The sticker on the lid would be just as visible upon approach and even now, with a larger sticker on the back of the bin, in theory the contents from non-sticker households would still have to be checked by the crew. In practice I do not think that the crews would have time to look in every non-stickered bin if they have to meet a target. I know of people who have not paid the Tidy Garden Tax and their bin is still emptied as normal.

On the lid or on the back of the bin, it does not answer the question of why there is now a scannable code on the label.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by AnotherPete ... dated:09 August 2018

Edward - I suspect the reason why the label is supposed to be put there is actually to do with making it visible to the refuse collectors, and also to make it last longer.  The old stickers were put on the lid of the bin so they were susceptible to bleaching from the sun, and also to see if a house had a sticker the collectors had to be standing at the bin to see it.  As you're supposed to put the bin with the handles facing out towards the road the sticker is now visible at a glance.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Herb ... dated:08 August 2018

Hopefully this Green Bin Tax will be scrapped now that Labour has control in Trafford. Lets hope when they come to discussing the budget for next year they will scrap it. But let me give the Labour party a warning, we, the voters were fed up as to what the Tory party was doing, so if the Labour party does not do something about it then we, the voters, will change our minds & vote the Labour party back out. Let us have a revolution.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:06 August 2018

Charging by weight would be useless as it does not collate to volume. Such a covert operation would be beyond the brains of Trafford, they will still need someone to lift the lid and look.
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Edward ... dated:06 August 2018

Whilst walking around the district I have noticed that quite a few green bins displaying last year's Tidy Garden Tax sticker are not displaying the current one. Have some people decided not to cough up this year after discovering that the bins were emptied regardless of whether someone had paid and displayed or not?

Just before the Tidy Garden Tax renewal date reminder notices were attached to the bins. Those notices contained an ominous little word: from £35 and from £40. As it happened the rate remained the same as last year's but I wonder what it might have been had the Tories had retained power in Trafford?

The new label has to be placed in a very precise location on the handle side of the bin. Not only does it carry the householder's address and payment number but there is also a small QR code. What is that for? Is some inspector going to call round and scan all the bins for some reason? That label, with the code, is uppermost when the bin is upended into the truck. Is the truck going to be equipped to scan the bins as they are being emptied, perhaps as a prelude for some future plan of charging households by weight for removing their waste?

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:10 June 2017
Edward, I'm not sure what non-compostable means in this context? All organic plant and garden waste can be left in a pile or buried and will decompose or be eaten by insects and bacteria. If at some point you wish to use it on your garden you can. Fortunately, Trafford Council doesn't control nature yet.
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Edward ... dated:09 June 2017

Trafford Tories' Tidy-Garden Tax hits garden-proud older people who do not have alternative means of disposing of their non-compostable garden waste, such as prunings etc. To a single pensioner living alone in a modest dwelling it equates to approximately another 4% on their council tax bill.

To many people the issue is not so much paying for a service which was previously included in services provided by TBC under their council tax payment but how much it will cost them in the future.

The Tory party makes great play on the headline rate of income tax but keeps quiet about all the rapidly escalating rates of other taxes which they sneak in. Take Airline Passenger Duty;  £10 in 1994 - £146 now for long haul flights. Take Insurance Premium Tax; 2.5% in 1994 - 12% now (increased again this very month). Then most famous increase of all, VAT; standard rate 8% when Thatcher came to power - 20% now.

How much will the Tidy-Garden Tax be in say five years' time, £50, £80, £100? How long is it likely to remain at £40 considering it is not a headline grabbing tax such as Income or Council Tax?

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by ChrisW ... dated:23 May 2017

I see the leaves that fell in my garden last winter are now breaking down nicely into a good mulch under our hedge and around the shrubs.

Free compost and no need to pay for a green bin.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:08 May 2017

You will have to sort out the toxic ones from the good ones or they still will not collect your bin.
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Bacchus ... dated:08 May 2017

Too late ...paid it ! And now I look forward to freely filling my green bin with all the leaves I can muster.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:07 May 2017
Many people are unable to access the forum during their luchbreak (many companies block all forums and social media), but access to the council's website is normally possible. Many other people will have heard of the petition from friends, but do not come on this forum. Petitions on the council website should be easy to find without resort to external links.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Herb ... dated:07 May 2017

It is easy to get to my e petition, JohnH put a direct link to it on 21st April 2017 & it is now nearing 600

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:04 May 2017
Yes, it's a shambles. I was tempted to start a petition to have all petitions on the same page.
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:03 May 2017
Yes. The question is though, how many people have gone in via the route I initially did, not managed to find the petition and just given up? It is certainly not a true indication of strength of feeling when people cannot easily access it without searching in different ways or relying upon external links.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:03 May 2017

SteveW, that's why JohnH provided a direct link in his post. But you need to find that as well. :-)

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:01 May 2017

Depending how you get there, it's not the easiest petition to find. On my first attempt, I navigated to the petitions section of Trafford's website, only for it to tell me that there were none. Only after coming at it a different way did I find it. Many people may be missing it.

By the way, did you use FUD deliberately as a pun? I am used to FUD (particularly the FUD factor) referring to Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - usually as a reason not to go ahead with something that involves change or effort.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Bendy ... dated:01 May 2017

Sad that out of all the people living in the FUD area, never mind Trafford as a whole,  only 557 have signed the petition against this underhanded extra tax.
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Herb ... dated:24 April 2017

Spangles - Only 3 trees, I have 5 trees on 2 sides of my garden in Moss Park, Stretford. I usually fill my green bin EVERY week from August to November.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Spangles ... dated:23 April 2017

I thought the green bin collection was all about recycling. However, if Trafford are unable to recycle green bin contents when containing leaves from polluted roadside trees, then what are we paying for? Perhaps we need a separate bin for all the autumn leaves from street trees, of which we have three outside our property.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:21 April 2017

I have paid my council tax, I believe I have already paid for the green bin to be emptied. Imagine walking out of Sainsburys after paying for a trolly full of stuff only to be stopped a the door and asked to pay for several of the items inside again.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:21 April 2017

If you don't want to pay, then don't, it's as easy as that.
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Evad ... dated:21 April 2017

Herb. Thanks for the notifications about the bins. Strangley enough not all people have computer or similar to view such posts so never get to see them. 

We have just moved to the Yorkshire Dales where everything is done by Email and mobile. Try registering somewhere here and they always ask for a mobile number, which useless because here we cannot get any signals atall. It's the norm to expect we all have the technology to hand, but that's not always the case. 

I don't need a green bin here anyway as the sheep get the green stuff, LOL

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by JohnH ... dated:21 April 2017

ePetition - Scrap the Green Bin Tax LINK

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Herb ... dated:21 April 2017

The Green Bin Tax e petition has been publicised on the Facebook forum sites of M41'ers, Stretford M32, Sale & Hale & Altrincham. I have tried to put it on here but 'copy& paste' don't work like other sites.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Spangles ... dated:18 April 2017

All those against should sign the e-petition on the Trafford MBC website. Unfortunately this has not been widely publicised.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:21 March 2017
Although, Aardvark, they will probably be paying less Council Tax and have less outgoings so can afford the extra charge. :-)

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