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Car Parking around Trafford General Hosp
Topic posted by Ann... ... dated:15 February 2004
Last week I arrived home to find a letter from a Mr David Cain, Chief Executive of Trafford Healthcare NHS Trust explaining what the trust were trying to do to reduce the parking around the hospital area, a topic which causes much grief to the local residents. All I can say is that they should have considered the residents when they were keen to sell off the land at the back of the hospital for development a few years ago. There is a surgical unit currently being built on what used to be a carpark, with no other provision for parking. It'll be even worse when the unit opens than it is now. Most doctors, nurses and support staff (porters,catering staff ect) need to use their cars as they are in the hospital far earlier than the administrative and clerical staff who could take public transport as they both start and finish work at reasonable times. Could this be a solution?
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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:09 August 2018

"Now the parking permit signs are up the problem has simply located further afield."

Indeed it has!

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Reply posted by Minnie ... dated:09 August 2018
Now the parking permit signs are up the problem has simply located further afield.
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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:02 August 2018

Huge amount of barriered off space around the back.

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Reply posted by Aardvark ... dated:01 August 2018

Edward - I don't see how it would help if hospital staff didn't have to pay for parking. Wouldn't their cars simply displace patients' and visitors' cars? Or are you saying that there are lots and lots of parking spaces that aren't being used?

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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:31 July 2018

It appears that the roads surounding Park Hospital are now to be placed under a residents' parking permit scheme.

I wonder if Trafford Borough Council will charge the local residents the £38.60 pa to park outside their own house, plus £11.00 for 25 single day permits for visitors, which are levied in some of the other residental parking permit areas around the borough?

A mass of paving over of front gardens perhaps?

Mind you, the street parking problems would probably disappear overnight if the Hospital Trust ceased to charge its own staff for workplace parking.

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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:23 February 2016

Slightly off topic but on the topic of bent officials;

Many years ago, in the early 1970s, we needed to take a new goods vehicle from Manchester to a depot at Rose Hill, near Burnley. This was in the days before the M66, the new A56 and the M65. I drove the truck and was followed by a mate in a car for the return journey. We were traveling down the Burnley by-pass, the A646, on a long down hill section under a 40 limit. Part way down I was stopped by a policeman, who, along with his mate, were operating one of the old fashioned table-top radar machines.

He insisted that our vehicle was travelling at 52mph and when I denied it he asserted that the magistrates always believe them anyway, especially when they are using the radar machines. He started to write out a ticket, it was then that I pointed out to him that this was a brand new vehicle and was fitted with a tachograph (not a mandatory requirement for all vehicles at that time) which records driver activity, vehicle movement and speed travelled on a card disc. The smug expression on his face changed rapidly when asked to sign the back of the card with his name, rank and number. We were abruptly told to go away, in two words of four and three letters respectively!

I wonder how many people were booked who were not in a position to absolutely prove their activity? We did consider making a complaint but decided against it for various reasons, partly what because there was no physical proof that the event actually took place, just the word of two people against two other people.

Perhaps users of car parks operated by certain companies need some sort of vehicle activity recording device to back up their arguments.

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Reply posted by Bob ... dated:23 February 2016

Indeed Edward!

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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:23 February 2016

One can play the rules to the letter but if one falls foul of an imperfect automated system or a bent official or company...

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Reply posted by Bob ... dated:23 February 2016

Actually, that's not strictly true Divad, the rules are all in favour of the parking company and you, as an individual who may not have been in the wrong, become liable for a speculative charge at their discretion. Your compliance with their t&cs is irrelevant.

That's the point I put to Edd that he has avoided that even though you may not be in the wrong and a parking firm sends you a charge, would you pay or fight it bearing in mind there are no independent and impartial bodies policing the industry.

And, to illustrate the point, have a think about this -  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html

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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:23 February 2016

Bob the point is, play by the rules and there isn't a problem. What more can you ask?
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Reply posted by Bob ... dated:23 February 2016

Well that's really quite disappointing Edd since the question was nothing to do with your experience, quite the opposite in fact.

Perhaps, that response says more than you had intended it to, but there you go.

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Reply posted by Edd ... dated:23 February 2016

Bob, I can't enlighten you on any car parking problems.

In the 38 years since I first drove a car I have never had any difficulties, misunderstandings, fines or other penalties in relation to parking my car.

I've always found car parking rules very easy to understand, and I can tell the time with the help of my watch.

When I hear people whine about their car parking problems I assume these people cannot do these simple things.
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Reply posted by Bob ... dated:22 February 2016

Edd, since you're offering your apparently highly qualified opinion on parking again and, not very helpfully I might add, can I refer you to the Eden Square Car Parking thread and a question put to you on November 11th on this very subject that you've so far avoided answering. Any chance you might enlighten the rest of us?

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Reply posted by Ame ... dated:21 February 2016

It happened to me when some tests took longer than expected.  I wrote straight back appealing and explaining the circumstances, and the ticket was cancelled within a few days.  

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Reply posted by Edd ... dated:21 February 2016

Oscar, the easiest way to frustrate the car park companies is to park according to the published terms and conditions.

For most people this is very easy to do, and is also good manners.

We are all aware that litigious, inconsiderate and selfish people with a persecution complex can cause problems for those who want to provide a service to the public such as a car park, but it is good of you to remind us.
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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:21 February 2016

When parking at Park, unless the rules have changed recently, one should inform reception or the parking office if one is expecting to be there for more than three hours. Your registration is then noted and one is left to stay for as long as in needed for treatment. Obviously do not expect to be able to park there all day or overnight for free but they will accommodate an overrunning clinic or emergency treatment.

Things may have changed recently since it is about eighteen months ago when I last went there in a car. Normally I walk round to the hospital, it only takes me about fifteen minutes - it often takes longer to locate the correct department!

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Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:21 February 2016

It does need a bit more planning to defeat the ticket nowadays but should still be doeable. Firstly do not admit to who was driving the vehicle, in any letters always address yourself as the keeper of the vehicle only, and then as stated register on pepipoo and head for the private parking forum.

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Reply posted by Horace ... dated:21 February 2016

My wife has received a Parking Charge Notice from an organisation called Civil Enforcement regarding her parking for over the allowed 3 hours in the car park at Trafford General. She had taken her mother for tests and by the time they had been seen to, been to the overcrowded Phlebotomy clinic and returned a wheelchair, their 3 hours was up. No ticket was put on the car so this is quite a surprise. Has anyone else had to pay the £35 charge?  Is this enforceable, and why should people have to pay a penalty when their extended stay is through no fault of their own.

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Reply posted by Tommothered ... dated:14 June 2011
Parking on a public road free from parking and loading restrictions, in a taxed, mot'd and insured vehicle is not illegal!!! People do not have any rights to the road outside of where they live. It is the public highway and is open to use from all legal motor vehicle users and pedestrians in any legal way.
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:08 June 2011
And you forgot to mention the other reason that they are too lazy to walk. Of course there are valid reasons why people can't walk but it only needs a small minority to change their habits like walking or catching a bus instead to make a difference.
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Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:08 June 2011
Graz, people don't walk to their appointments for a variety of reasons. Some simply want to avoid the bad weather or don't want to spend the extra time it takes to walk there and back, when they've got other things to do. In my case, every minute is lost money, so when I've had appointments, I've driven straight from work to the hospital and then straight back again. More recent visits have been due to painful foot and knee problems, so walking's not exactly been fun anyway.
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:08 June 2011
I know but there's no point in having a large car park and no facilities because you've never developed new buildings to provide improved health care. More people should walk to their appointments.
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Reply posted by Seethin ... dated:08 June 2011
No Graz, Its just too small that is my point....They should have never sold the land in the first place the cuckoo's
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Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:08 June 2011
The people parking on the roads around the hospital are probably staff, as, as far as I am aware, staff have to pay to use the car park - if they didn't it would probably be full all the time!
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Reply posted by Vogue ... dated:08 June 2011
I thought the same...
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:08 June 2011
Because the car park is full of people enjoying the free parking facilities.
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Reply posted by Seethin ... dated:08 June 2011
I am confused, if the parking at TGH is now one of the best, why do people still park on Davyhulme road?
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Reply posted by JohnH ... dated:06 June 2011
Good news and praise for the TGH car parking scheme.
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Reply posted by Steak ... dated:02 July 2010
Graz,
If they sell off the staff car park area there will not be enough room on the front car park for the staff cars let alone visitors.
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