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Green Wheelie Bins
Topic posted by Eric ... dated:31 March 2006
The collectors of these bins told my neighbour that they will no longer empty them - is this true?
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:10 June 2017
Edward, I'm not sure what non-compostable means in this context? All organic plant and garden waste can be left in a pile or buried and will decompose or be eaten by insects and bacteria. If at some point you wish to use it on your garden you can. Fortunately, Trafford Council doesn't control nature yet.
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Reply posted by Edward ... dated:09 June 2017

Trafford Tories' Tidy-Garden Tax hits garden-proud older people who do not have alternative means of disposing of their non-compostable garden waste, such as prunings etc. To a single pensioner living alone in a modest dwelling it equates to approximately another 4% on their council tax bill.

To many people the issue is not so much paying for a service which was previously included in services provided by TBC under their council tax payment but how much it will cost them in the future.

The Tory party makes great play on the headline rate of income tax but keeps quiet about all the rapidly escalating rates of other taxes which they sneak in. Take Airline Passenger Duty;  £10 in 1994 - £146 now for long haul flights. Take Insurance Premium Tax; 2.5% in 1994 - 12% now (increased again this very month). Then most famous increase of all, VAT; standard rate 8% when Thatcher came to power - 20% now.

How much will the Tidy-Garden Tax be in say five years' time, £50, £80, £100? How long is it likely to remain at £40 considering it is not a headline grabbing tax such as Income or Council Tax?

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by ChrisW ... dated:23 May 2017

I see the leaves that fell in my garden last winter are now breaking down nicely into a good mulch under our hedge and around the shrubs.

Free compost and no need to pay for a green bin.

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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:08 May 2017

You will have to sort out the toxic ones from the good ones or they still will not collect your bin.
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Reply posted by Bacchus ... dated:08 May 2017

Too late ...paid it ! And now I look forward to freely filling my green bin with all the leaves I can muster.

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Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:07 May 2017
Many people are unable to access the forum during their luchbreak (many companies block all forums and social media), but access to the council's website is normally possible. Many other people will have heard of the petition from friends, but do not come on this forum. Petitions on the council website should be easy to find without resort to external links.

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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:07 May 2017

It is easy to get to my e petition, JohnH put a direct link to it on 21st April 2017 & it is now nearing 600

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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:04 May 2017
Yes, it's a shambles. I was tempted to start a petition to have all petitions on the same page.
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Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:03 May 2017
Yes. The question is though, how many people have gone in via the route I initially did, not managed to find the petition and just given up? It is certainly not a true indication of strength of feeling when people cannot easily access it without searching in different ways or relying upon external links.

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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:03 May 2017

SteveW, that's why JohnH provided a direct link in his post. But you need to find that as well. :-)

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Reply posted by SteveW ... dated:01 May 2017

Depending how you get there, it's not the easiest petition to find. On my first attempt, I navigated to the petitions section of Trafford's website, only for it to tell me that there were none. Only after coming at it a different way did I find it. Many people may be missing it.

By the way, did you use FUD deliberately as a pun? I am used to FUD (particularly the FUD factor) referring to Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - usually as a reason not to go ahead with something that involves change or effort.

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Reply posted by Bendy ... dated:01 May 2017

Sad that out of all the people living in the FUD area, never mind Trafford as a whole,  only 557 have signed the petition against this underhanded extra tax.
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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:24 April 2017

Spangles - Only 3 trees, I have 5 trees on 2 sides of my garden in Moss Park, Stretford. I usually fill my green bin EVERY week from August to November.

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Reply posted by Spangles ... dated:23 April 2017

I thought the green bin collection was all about recycling. However, if Trafford are unable to recycle green bin contents when containing leaves from polluted roadside trees, then what are we paying for? Perhaps we need a separate bin for all the autumn leaves from street trees, of which we have three outside our property.

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Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:21 April 2017

I have paid my council tax, I believe I have already paid for the green bin to be emptied. Imagine walking out of Sainsburys after paying for a trolly full of stuff only to be stopped a the door and asked to pay for several of the items inside again.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:21 April 2017

If you don't want to pay, then don't, it's as easy as that.
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Reply posted by Evad ... dated:21 April 2017

Herb. Thanks for the notifications about the bins. Strangley enough not all people have computer or similar to view such posts so never get to see them. 

We have just moved to the Yorkshire Dales where everything is done by Email and mobile. Try registering somewhere here and they always ask for a mobile number, which useless because here we cannot get any signals atall. It's the norm to expect we all have the technology to hand, but that's not always the case. 

I don't need a green bin here anyway as the sheep get the green stuff, LOL

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Reply posted by JohnH ... dated:21 April 2017

ePetition - Scrap the Green Bin Tax LINK

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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:21 April 2017

The Green Bin Tax e petition has been publicised on the Facebook forum sites of M41'ers, Stretford M32, Sale & Hale & Altrincham. I have tried to put it on here but 'copy& paste' don't work like other sites.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Spangles ... dated:18 April 2017

All those against should sign the e-petition on the Trafford MBC website. Unfortunately this has not been widely publicised.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:21 March 2017
Although, Aardvark, they will probably be paying less Council Tax and have less outgoings so can afford the extra charge. :-)

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Reply posted by Aardvark ... dated:20 March 2017

The people I pity are those who live in a terraced house with a very small garden at the front and a small yard at the back. They are likely to have a hedge that needs cutting, but they don't have the space for a compost bin or any end use for the compost. Perhaps what will happen is that several householders will pay for and share a single green bin, on a rota basis.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:19 March 2017

There seem to be two perspectives on this.

Council tax is paid based on the value of your property. Generally a house with a garden will pay more council tax so why should they pay twice for a garden waste collection.

For people without a garden, why should they subsidise those who have a garden. Shouldn't they make their own arrangements.

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Reply posted by Herb ... dated:13 March 2017

I have now got a Green BIn Tax e petition on Traffords website

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Reply posted by Brian2 ... dated:10 November 2016

I use a leaf rake and move the leaves onto my borders.

Over the winter I see various birds,Blackbird, Robin etc turning over the leaves to access any insects underneath. come early summer all the leaves have gone, either decomposed or taken into the soil by worms.

Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:10 November 2016

These are budget proposals with nothing written in stone. All it has done is stir up the public into rumours of charges, inspectors, and bin police. Two years ago this site was discussing the introduction of monitors measuring how much garbage was going into a bin. Lol. 
Re: Green Wheelie Bins
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:10 November 2016

Leaves are free food for your garden to see it through the winter. Can't understand why so many people whinge about leaves when they drop every year. People seem more concerned with leaves than litter. Just "leave" them alone and stop worrying - they will decompose and disappear.

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Reply posted by Bayray ... dated:10 November 2016

Will I be able to charge the council for my time in removing leaves from the foot path from the tree outside my house as there has been no leaf cleaners in my area and as I place the leaves in the green bin for them to remove 

As reported in the press of a charge to empty the said green bin is proposed

And as dog walker where ever you go in Urmston I don't think any leaf removal has been carried out this year I have not visited any of the southern towns of the borough but have there leaves been swept up ???

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Reply posted by Shotstopper ... dated:08 November 2016
Likes like its spending £7 on a Composter, or take the leaves and garden rubbish to the local tip on our own time when we can, or pay £40 a year to have them collect it, altough it will be interesting to see how the council wil be able to collect the rubbish from houses that have paid from those that havent!!
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