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George Carnell
Topic posted by Camston ... dated:01 December 2010
George Carnell shutting bar and function room. Trafford leisure have decided to shut the bar and function within 4 weeks at the sports centre. I have trained and played five-a-side at the centre for many years now. After training and football I and my team mates enjoy going into the bar to relax  have a drink and have a chat about the training or the five-a-side game that we have had. we have used the function room for presentations and family celebrations and had some great times there.I thought a sports centre was for sports and leisure not for CONFERENCES as they are shutting it down for.I was told by a member of staff that it is a sports and leisure centre for the PUBLIC TO USE.
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Reply posted by JohnH ... dated:28 July 2017

Not in the first phase but "one million sq ft of business space has been given the green light" so who knows...

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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:27 July 2017
Is a new leisure centre planned as part of the Carrington development?
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Reply posted by JohnH ... dated:26 July 2017

Trafford council has voted to close George Carnall leisure centre.  

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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:11 November 2016

On the other hand, I've seen the dress code for Flixton Golf Club and a merger would be fun to see!

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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:11 November 2016

You are right Graz the Flixton club has nothing to do with council, it is another spin off story so far without basis.
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:10 November 2016

I assumed Flixton Golf Club was private and nothing to do with the council. Maybe someone is confused with this statement from the Draft GM Spatial Framework:

"Deliver a single re-modelled golf course within the Green Belt, to the south of the railway line"

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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:10 November 2016

An article in todays Messenger explains some detail. Carnell will close when renovation is complete at Bowfell. £10m on a new place for Alty. They state the centres are not sustainable so I ask why build another? The amalgam of golf courses Flixton and Wroe is suggested, although I was there today at Wroe, they claim they know nothing of this. (Golfers crossing Church Road should be fun) Too many rumours and not enough facts, make sure you are at the Urmston Library on the 21st to this sorted.
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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:10 November 2016

"Do you think stuck up toffs would set foot anywhere near a council leisure centre?" - in that case, why the need for a new one in Altrincham?


Because, despite the embarrassing views of some people not everyone in Altrincham is a toff.  Leisure facilities, health and social care is needed in Altrincham like everywhere in Trafford because there is a mix of affluence and deprivation. Ever been to Broadheath, Oldfield Brow or the estates in Timperley? Hardly paved with gold. The Altrincham area seems to cope with one leisure centre for 75,000 residents but maybe people stay away because it's over-subscribed.

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Reply posted by Tom ... dated:10 November 2016

Not everyone can exercise outdoors.  The George Carnell centre is IFI accredited, which means that it's been modified for the benefit of disabled people.

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Reply posted by Atlantean ... dated:10 November 2016

Nobody has said GHC is not viable. Indeed, the report state that Trafford Leisure Community Interest Company Limited is financially independent. There is however a backlog of repairs - GHC needs £1.8 million and Altrincham nearly £3 spending on it.

There are plenty of private gyms, but as far as I know you can't play badminton or squash in them.

"Do you think stuck up toffs would set foot anywhere near a council leisure centre?" - in that case, why the need for a new one in Altrincham?

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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:09 November 2016

Very true Oscar, but there is no right or left, just politicians - that's the problem. It's reached the point where an alleged racist, misogynistic, gambler with a creative hair-do seems like a breath of fresh air. But a good point was made below - you don't need a leisure centre to keep fit when you have the 'outside' to use for free. In fact if you drew a graph showing the number of leisure centres built since the 1970's against the number of obsese residents you'd never build one again. They are good for improving the area's social fabric and the mental health of their users.

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Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:09 November 2016

The only thing that boggles the mind is the fact that the sheeple continue to vote the same lefty loonies into positions of power year after year and then cry about what they have done. Take kate Green, as communist as they come yet she is our MP put there by the very people she has a hand in fleecing until the pips squeak.

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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:09 November 2016

If Carnell is not viable then it must go, thereafter Council should NOT be building another anywhere. The fact is, it a luxury item when basic infrastructure has to be a higher priority. Council throw around money they haven't got on places we don't need and then complain they are broke. Keep fit enthusiasts being catered for when garbage collection is a problem, the mind boggles.
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Reply posted by Atlantean ... dated:09 November 2016

I think the idea is to improve and expand Urmston Leisure Centre - but there's no indication on how the £2m would be spent! All seems to be lacking in detail!

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Reply posted by Graz ... dated:08 November 2016

Do you think stuck up toffs would set foot anywhere near a council leisure centre? Private health clubs and spas are more their thing. Why does Urmston need two? Sale has a bigger population, more young people, more old people and has a much older and decrepit leisure centre.Maybe Urmston has more uptake in private run gyms. We're not poor round these parts you know.

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Reply posted by Oscar ... dated:08 November 2016

So they want to get people fit by closing a leisure centre, sounds about right from a loony council, the only fat things they are interested in is their wallet. Also why does Urmston leisure centre need £2M spending on it, its still quite a new building.

And last but not least, I see the toffs in Altrincham are getting the lions share of everything as well, nothing to do with the stuck up councillors living round that area is it.

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Reply posted by Atlantean ... dated:08 November 2016

George H Carnall leisure centre is set to be closed as part of the Council's Increasing Physical Activity across the Borough plan.

Under the plan, which is subject to consultation as part of the budget consultation:

  • £2 million will be urgently spent on improving Urmston Leisure Centre.
  • George H Carnall will close.
  • £10 million will be spent on a new leisure centre for Altrincham
Also an oversupply of golf courses will result in William Wroe being colsolidated with the neighbouring golf course 

All the committee reports are here: https://democratic.trafford.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?CId=141&MId=1872
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Reply posted by Evad ... dated:13 May 2014
Divad. My feelings entirely. I attend a few antique fairs and the like, along with many amateur radio fairs. As you mention shops donot charge a fee to browse or enter and neither should stall holders. Any rental fees due to the venue, should be paid and split by the stall holders themselfs.
I will not attend any venue if the price is extorsionate.
I've walked away from venues that charge x £'s to get in. There loss, my gain.
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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:12 May 2014
Having visited the Centre for an Antique Fair on Sunday I feel a bit cheated. I was charged an entry fee to brows the stalls. If this was for charity or the like I wouldn't mind but there wasn't reference to anything like that. Surely stall holders pay to display their wares to the public? If Sainsbury's charged for customers to go shopping they wouldn't get too many.
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Reply posted by Bargefoot ... dated:03 December 2010
There's always the Moss Vale. I'm sure they'd welcome you with open arms. :-)
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Reply posted by Divad ... dated:02 December 2010
If this is a cost cutting scheme to keep the center viable then it has to be a good thing don't you think? Maybe you and your mates didn't sup enough to keep it in the black.
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