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Footpaths in Flixton
Topic posted by Fiona ... dated:31 March 2002
I live in Flixton and would love to be able to walk along the Mersey, but I cannot find any footpaths to get to it. Can anyone help?
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:22 August 2017

An application by the Urmston History Society to have the Bottoms Footpath declared as a Heritage site has been denied. There are no regulations in place to recognise listings of this nature. It would appear that the Secretary of State can close one at will but cannot protect in the same way.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Fudge ... dated:22 July 2017

Divad..Thanks for your reply.Yes the blocked off section of the path is on the Flixton side from the locks to the end of the old line.

.It has been that way for some time.And as for me I have contacted the council a number of times,to the point I have given up.  

Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:21 July 2017

Fudge, if the path you are mentioning is on the Irlam side then nothing can be done other than approaching Peel. For Flixton, then you can call Viv Ward at the Flixton office of the Conservatives on Flixton Road.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Fudge ... dated:21 July 2017

Hi all. I would like to point out the path that links Irlam locks to the old line is still blocked off. If Viv ward could have a word with Peel which I guess put the fence up in the first place might be handy. As Joe public im just getting know where.

Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:20 July 2017

I have been advised that the Flixton Coucillor Viv Ward will take up the challenge in having the footpath cleared.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:20 July 2017

The Bottoms footpath is under siege once more as it has been allowed to overgrow. A complaint to Amey resulted in nothing and so a letter to Trafford Council followed. They choose to ignor this resulting in a new letter forwarded to the Environmental Department. Look out Kate Green your next, David will beat Goliath.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:09 June 2014
There were two at one time Bigc. One led to the Calamanco Mill which was obviously used to give access. That became redundant with the closure of the Mill. The other went to what was Brook House on Irlam Road, later to be Boat Lane Farm near Towns Gate. These areas became populated and the paths gradually lost, in most cases with the approval of Parliament.
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Reply posted by Bigc ... dated:09 June 2014
Flixton Foot Path. Does anybody have any details of the foot path that ran from the back of The Fox and Hounds Pub all the way to Irlam Locks. Was it a public right of way? Some parts of it have been blocked off.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Kilbaha ... dated:03 June 2012
Representatives acting on behalf of  Manchester United  would have known if there was a public access allowed through the site when they bought the land, would the sale deeds be open to viewing?
I have heard the photographer argument (as Manchester City have had problems) but ask the Council to ban the taking of photographs at certain areas of the site.
I know some fans are disappointed that there no access for fans to watch the training as previously at the Cliff, even if it was a few days of the season. Like everything a compromise should be made for all parties.
Once that 'access' is changed it is gone forever. Good luck to you Tom and anyone else that uses and cares about these matters and does something about it.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:01 June 2012
Thanks Bob.  "76433-Planning Design and Access Statement.pdf" says:
 
"Lastly, the external works will not impact on Birch Road and its use as a footpath, bridleway or cycle route."
 
I'm going to see if I can get this clarified with the council.  Perhaps we could get Birch Road, in its entirety, declared a bridleway or footpath, with relevant signage.
 
The privacy requirements for Man Utd will almost certainly be to keep photographers and TV crews from filming the first team training. 
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by BobII ... dated:31 May 2012
Tom,

Seeing as its somewhat late, I only took a quick look at the recent planning application & documents for the training ground, which are located Here.

However, in the “planning design & access statement” the area / roads are described as follows:

“The application site is accessed from Isherwood Road via Birch Road, which was previously a tramway and has since been strengthened to protect gas, oil and water pipelines. Birch Road (and its associated trees) is known as a ‘Ride’”
 
However, and euphemisms aside, the majority of the planning documents stress the creation of earth mounds and the desire for privacy. But when placed against the other comments in the various documents, about the rural setting etc, then privacy seems like an odd thing to desire or need…privacy from whom?

Some of the other documents, such as the Geo Environmental and in particular the site history of the area, seem to imply a public right of way…or at the least, the creation of such a right, due to the passage of time that these tracks have been used.

Good luck with it Tom, as I was always under the impression that a public footpath did exist alongside there…if not by explicit design then via adverse possession and or prescription etc.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:31 May 2012
Load up Bing Maps, find Flixton and switch to Ordnance Survey Map (top left corner of map).  You can clearly see that the southern end of Birch Road is a bridleway.  I'm just not sure about the bit past Man Utd.
 
I reckon at least a couple of hundred people must use that road daily, it's a fantastic cut-through if you're cycling or walking from Flixton to Altrincham.  And I see people (including foreign tourists) stood outside Man Utd, waiting for autographs, all the time.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:31 May 2012
The closest path on my old map shows a public footpath about a half mile to the west of Ackers Lane and heading south. I am not familiar with the area and so cannot help with a comment other than that. If Trafford do not have any record, Peak and Northern may be the next step to take this up with.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Evad ... dated:31 May 2012
When I was a nipper I'd walk down Isherwood road, across the farm and buildings that were there around 50+ years ago, coming out onto Birch road. I can remember getting chased by the geese the farmer had as a deterrant. Now, talking to my dad(86years young) he tells me that this road 'HAD' to opened up for a day a year to Joe public. Maybe that was to keep it a freeway?? He also told me that on this certain day he'd drive ducks and geese upto Chelford market, other farmers sending there stock this way too. Any one shed any light on this one.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:31 May 2012
I've emailed the council about this but has anyone noticed the people parked at the southern end of Birch Road, near Sindlerland Lane?  Presumably they're security for the construction work being undertaken at Man Utd's training ground.
 
Today one of them told me that I shouldn't cycle down Birch Road (which according to the OS map is a bridleway for at least part of its length) and that in future he might bar my path.  I'm pretty sure that to block a right of way is an offence so I'm concerned that these people might get themselves in trouble for no reason.  And obviously I'd rather continue using the road I've been using almost daily for the last ten years or so.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:11 March 2011
By the way what should be a great bridleway runs from Park Road (near Warburton Bridge) to Lock Lane in Partington, unfortunately the council have allowed it to become completely overgrown and its almost impassable (believe me I've tried).  It offers views of the canal from its eastern bank.  Well it should, but the council need to sort it out.
 
 
Maybe someone from the footpath association needs to give them a kick up the backside, because I'd love to be able to cycle down there and avoid using Carrington Road. 
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:11 March 2011
Green dotted lines.  There is a footpath across the field and through City's training ground, although "their" land might end with the footpath, who knows.  Certainly it might be of interest to City fans who want to watch their team training, because the team has no legal power to move people on   The other footpath is on the west side of the training ground but I don't know if its a historic footpath or something a bit more casual.
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Reply posted by Noel ... dated:11 March 2011
Tom.....Are the public footpaths indicated by the blue dotted lines? If they are then I am wrong in my recollection but it appears that a public footpath goes straight across the MCFC training pitches.
 
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:10 March 2011
The footpaths around there are clearly visible on Bing Maps, just go to the area and select "OS Map", you'll see them.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Graz ... dated:10 March 2011
Noel, there's a signposted footpath that runs down the right-hand side of the site as you look at it from across the road. If this is available, not sure why a path on the other side would have been hidden. Plus doesn't the equestrian centre border the left-hand side?
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Reply posted by Noel ... dated:10 March 2011
I have convinced myself that there used to be a public footpath which ran along the side of the MCFC training facility on Carrington Lane. If you stood on the opposite side of the road facing the front gate, I seem to recall that the footpaths ran along the fence which borders the left hand side of the football pitches.
 
If I am right, I think the signposts have been removed and there has been an attempt to disguise the presence of a footpath.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Divad ... dated:15 December 2010
As a staunch supporter of keeping the footpaths open throughout the district this particular one has to be accepted as a compromise. The time has changed from the original use as in walking from A to B. The path has given access to the problem of miss-use due to modern trends and is a danger to the school. Sometimes older thinking has to change and I personally feel this was the correct approach. The path has not been lost only restricted because if the circumstances.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:14 December 2010
> Tom, you stated it is "a public footpath, and should not be blocked" (stated as a matter of fact), which infers that it has been done illegally.
 
I stated it as a matter of opinion, if I stated it as a matter of fact I would have said "must" or "cannot".  I'm not sure how you can infer something from my words, perhaps you meant imply. 
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Boblet ... dated:14 December 2010
Tom, you stated it is "a public footpath, and should not be blocked" (stated as a matter of fact), which infers that it has been done illegally.
 
There was a consultation (advertised in the Public Notices section of Messenger) at the time before the gating order was granted, and the order is posted on the Council's website, with a map showing reasonable alternative routes that may be followed when the gates are closed 9-3 on schooldays.
 
I presume you objected, however, the gate was installed legally.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Robbo ... dated:14 December 2010
Who really gives a monkey about the path just walk a bit further and go around lazy people.
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Reply posted by Jacks ... dated:14 December 2010
Tom the public footpath divides the main school buildings from the dining hall - and due to safety issues the gates were introduced only during school hours.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Steak ... dated:13 December 2010
If the reson is that access can be gained to the school yard from the footpath, as stated by vicklou, why not just stop the access and leave the public footpath open.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Tom ... dated:13 December 2010
Wrong to believe that public footpaths shouldn't be blocked off?  I don't see why.
Re: Footpaths in Flixton
Reply posted by Boblet ... dated:12 December 2010
Tom's wrong, the path has been closed off by use of a Gating Order, made under section 129a of the Highways Act 1980. It is not closed all of the time though.
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